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I do appreciate the existence of a primer of sorts; there's a lot usefully put to page here. I have close personal friends who are trans women and have written myself about the joy and relief of being close to trans women, as a complicated-nonbinary lesbian; trans women 'get it' instinctively, and without these dear friends (maid of honor at my wedding, co-organizer in college, etc) my life would be worse, and I'm really grateful for the work you are doing in trying to help more women bridge these eminently-bridgeable gaps and share each others' lives.

I have also had fairly negative experiences with Explicitly All Transfem friend groups that VERY strongly rhymed with my experience of All Cis Lesbian friend groups in terms of misogynist desire-policing and behavior-policing. This was a genuinely pretty impactful difficulty in my relationship with my wife at first; she had friends who treated me as an interloper, or who would, unintentionally I assume, make invitations for her without inviting me (despite me being her ride), or outright ignore me socially when I was present/make pointed statements about how Only Trans Women Will Understand This/etc. This was hard! I was convinced that I was doing something wrong, read more, tried harder, etc. and got more pushback accordingly. It was a delight for me to bring her into my friend groups and introduce her individually to my friends, several of whom are now her friends as well; I think in part, my wife was not pressured into hostessing-mode (as you very aptly reference) and truly did not recognize that this was happening for me, but also there was a pre-existing hostility there in many cases on an individual level. It reminded me a lot of the energy in cisfem lesbian friend groups when I was assumed to be hogging the attention of a desirable usually-butch lesbian by dating or having had sex with them as someone who was, at the time, very femme; I try not to assume that any space or people are exempt from misogyny, on that basis. It is the water we swim in, women included, and trans women are the women of women.

Accordingly, I'm glad that you included the potential friend-integration struggles. I think it's worth being aware of for both the trans and 'cis' partner; this dynamic created some unnecessary friction in our relationship until I gave up on befriending her friends. Perhaps being aware of this potential hurdle can help trans and cis women looking to join their lives and protect/love each other do so more seamlessly; personally, I did often end up Dishes Girl or Food Girl in such contexts out of social disconnection, and it is unfortunately a self-reinforcing cycle until someone names it. Thank you for naming it with such empathy and thought and generally putting in this work!

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Reading this feels like touching the tips of many icebergs, which is to say that I would gladly read a more in-depth version of every section, should you choose to go deeper, particularly the last two sections.

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